.223 Rifle Die Sets vs Carbine
Quote from Reloader on September 12, 2013, 11:40 pmI ordered the .223 rifle dies for my 550b. I called Dillon today to try and reorder the carbine set but as I explained to the tech that I am not high volume in my production but I would like to shoot 200 to 300 rounds bi weekly. My question is I like my time on the press to be productive and without any hitches...no QD problems...no flaws in the machine doing what it needs to do. Will I get that with the regular dies or do I need to put in the upgrade. This is my first time on rifle production but my research tells me that you really have to stay on top of the decapping ,sizing and trimming and crimping. I also haven't pick my AR yet but I am leaning toward the Ruger SR556E....but trying to get my ammo situation taking care of first.Any info on those dies would be greatly appreciated and talking to the tech at Dillon if I had any problems that they would and have in the past taken care of me but.....Time is my killer.....smile...have yet to have developed patience. Thanks all and be SAFE.
I ordered the .223 rifle dies for my 550b. I called Dillon today to try and reorder the carbine set but as I explained to the tech that I am not high volume in my production but I would like to shoot 200 to 300 rounds bi weekly. My question is I like my time on the press to be productive and without any hitches...no QD problems...no flaws in the machine doing what it needs to do. Will I get that with the regular dies or do I need to put in the upgrade. This is my first time on rifle production but my research tells me that you really have to stay on top of the decapping ,sizing and trimming and crimping. I also haven't pick my AR yet but I am leaning toward the Ruger SR556E....but trying to get my ammo situation taking care of first.Any info on those dies would be greatly appreciated and talking to the tech at Dillon if I had any problems that they would and have in the past taken care of me but.....Time is my killer.....smile...have yet to have developed patience. Thanks all and be SAFE.
Quote from Reloader on September 16, 2013, 4:37 pmCarbide dies are intended for the commercial loaders, as they last about 750,000 cycles before wearing enough to affect headspace. Steel dies are good for about 40,000 or so cases.
Carbide dies are intended for the commercial loaders, as they last about 750,000 cycles before wearing enough to affect headspace. Steel dies are good for about 40,000 or so cases.
Quote from Reloader on September 17, 2013, 12:34 amThanks Dillon for the reply...after reading my own post....I didn't know what the heck I was asking.....smile.....I guess what I am trying to ask is on the smoothness of the stations with the regular dies as compared to the carbine dies...and if I am reading you right I should not have any problems in the feel of my press going through the stations. Thks
Thanks Dillon for the reply...after reading my own post....I didn't know what the heck I was asking.....smile.....I guess what I am trying to ask is on the smoothness of the stations with the regular dies as compared to the carbine dies...and if I am reading you right I should not have any problems in the feel of my press going through the stations. Thks
Quote from Reloader on September 24, 2013, 3:20 amAdvice is needed...I sprayed the dillon lube on the cases and rolled them around and waited about 5 minutes... but these FC 223 cases are really sticking in station 1 going into and out of the decapping and resizing die....what am I doing wrong...dumb question but do I need to some how spray directly inside the neck also...really sorry I just don't want to mess up and put out a bad product...thks for the help.
Advice is needed...I sprayed the dillon lube on the cases and rolled them around and waited about 5 minutes... but these FC 223 cases are really sticking in station 1 going into and out of the decapping and resizing die....what am I doing wrong...dumb question but do I need to some how spray directly inside the neck also...really sorry I just don't want to mess up and put out a bad product...thks for the help.
Quote from Reloader on September 26, 2013, 8:29 pmWhen you say "Really Sticking" what does that mean. ie: When you pull the handle down you can't return back up ? Or there is quite a bit resistence pulling the lever down and up ? You should feel resistence in both directions. Also you should leave the cartridges sit for at least 10 minutes before using them in the press. Be pretty liberal with the amount that you spray.
When you say "Really Sticking" what does that mean. ie: When you pull the handle down you can't return back up ? Or there is quite a bit resistence pulling the lever down and up ? You should feel resistence in both directions. Also you should leave the cartridges sit for at least 10 minutes before using them in the press. Be pretty liberal with the amount that you spray.
Quote from Reloader on September 26, 2013, 11:06 pmAnm2 man...thks for reply. One of the cases broke off into the die as I was trying to bring the case out of the die and I was force to remove the die and screw the case out. I am in the process of set up so maybe during the 2nd time I inserted that case could have been the start of my problem...I will take your advice and lube a lot more than I did the first time. The Dillon Video has been really helpful on the set up but the lube thing is a big deal with the rifle brass as compared to the pistol brass in which I have been loading previously. Going to try again tonight ....thks all
PS- that sizing ball for the neck of the 223 is where my problem is coming in at ....inserting and removal.
Anm2 man...thks for reply. One of the cases broke off into the die as I was trying to bring the case out of the die and I was force to remove the die and screw the case out. I am in the process of set up so maybe during the 2nd time I inserted that case could have been the start of my problem...I will take your advice and lube a lot more than I did the first time. The Dillon Video has been really helpful on the set up but the lube thing is a big deal with the rifle brass as compared to the pistol brass in which I have been loading previously. Going to try again tonight ....thks all
PS- that sizing ball for the neck of the 223 is where my problem is coming in at ....inserting and removal.
Quote from Reloader on October 17, 2013, 9:48 amI have been using Dillon products for over 30 years and have always liked anything I got from them. But when it comes to case lube, I have to go with Hornady One Shot. I have never found anything that works as well and it has no affect on powder or primers. Just takes a minute to dry.
I have been using Dillon products for over 30 years and have always liked anything I got from them. But when it comes to case lube, I have to go with Hornady One Shot. I have never found anything that works as well and it has no affect on powder or primers. Just takes a minute to dry.
Quote from Reloader on October 20, 2013, 12:56 amThanks for the info on the One Shot stancarden I did see that at my local gun shop and will certainly give it a shot. The sizing is a step that I will perform as a single step because I want to tumble my brass afterward due to the trimming and inspection steps I perform. Also fire the AR this past week and had the time of my life. My loads fired off great with no problems so that's all for the info. Just for info I watched a you tube video and the gentleman had a homemade lube for his brass, What amazed me was he was able to insert the brass several times without it sticking.....That is what I am looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0117UuXiSS4
Thanks for the info on the One Shot stancarden I did see that at my local gun shop and will certainly give it a shot. The sizing is a step that I will perform as a single step because I want to tumble my brass afterward due to the trimming and inspection steps I perform. Also fire the AR this past week and had the time of my life. My loads fired off great with no problems so that's all for the info. Just for info I watched a you tube video and the gentleman had a homemade lube for his brass, What amazed me was he was able to insert the brass several times without it sticking.....That is what I am looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0117UuXiSS4
Quote from Reloader on November 15, 2013, 6:07 amI load quite a lot of rifle and my solution to the lube problem is to use Imperial wax, by getting some on my hands, then rubbing my hands together, then putting my hands in a large pan of brass and rubbing the brass all over for about 15 seconds. This applies just a bit of lube to many of the cases (not necessary to hit every case) and by lubing about 20% of the cases, I don't have to do any additional lubing.
I also use the power trimmer to size and trim in one operation, then tumble lightly to remove the lube, then back to deprime and load the cases. I have found this to work very well and it takes no more time than spraying with any kind of spray lube, and it's less expensive.
I load quite a lot of rifle and my solution to the lube problem is to use Imperial wax, by getting some on my hands, then rubbing my hands together, then putting my hands in a large pan of brass and rubbing the brass all over for about 15 seconds. This applies just a bit of lube to many of the cases (not necessary to hit every case) and by lubing about 20% of the cases, I don't have to do any additional lubing.
I also use the power trimmer to size and trim in one operation, then tumble lightly to remove the lube, then back to deprime and load the cases. I have found this to work very well and it takes no more time than spraying with any kind of spray lube, and it's less expensive.