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In the October Blue Press, Dillon printed a letter from someone who had a serious incident due to a manufacturer changing their .45 ACP ammo from the standard large pistol primer to small pistol primers.  Unfortunately they let their lawyer talk them into wimping out and not naming the manufacturer.

Anybody know who it was?  I sure don't want to wind up with any of that ammo.

Also, you might consider writing Dillon about their decision not to print the manufacturer's name, as I just did.

Thanks!

- Brad

There are several manufacturers who make small-pistol primed 45ACP ammo. All 45ACP ammo loaded with lead-free primers have small primer pockets, as lead-free primers are not made in large size. At least two manufacturers use small primer pocketed brass for other loads as well.

I've crushed 45 acp primers in small primer brass, brass with a heavy crimp, even had them seated sideways, and never had one detonate. I'm sure it could happen, but I can't see how it could detonate the primers in the tube. The brass being primed is not under or near the open end of the tube. 

I have some WIN NT brass in .45ACP with small primer pockets. I'm going to lload it with Federal small pistol primers and try the starting load for some 230gr JHP's I have on the shelf and see what the chrono says. The small pockets aren't a big deal to me because I sort by headstamp-they stick out llike a sore thumb. Bill

Federal and Speer are the two manufactures I usually run into with small pistol primer pockets on 45 acp brass.  I too have detonated a large primer trying to seat it into a small primer pocket...it scared the $hit out of me.  Now I take a closer look when loading 45 acp's......

This is the main reason I sort all my .45 brass by headstamp - not so much because I think it will make much difference in accuracy, but because it:
1. Forces me to look at each primer to make sure I junk any small pockets
2. Makes it easier to pick up my brass when I know what I'm shooting

Blazer is another one notorious for small primers... I believe CCI manufactures them

   Federal and Blazer use small pistol primers.  All of the others that I have encountered use large pistol primers.

When you feel unusual resistance during priming, stop pushing.  No need to crush a primer if a small pocket 45 case sneaks in.  I would find it difficult to set off a primer in the press. 

Blazer and Federal !!!!

 

Another thing, don't try and reuse the primer that didn't fit. I did that as I had some down the ski slope (actually an aftermarket collection bottle) and I put them back in the primer pick up. At least one was slightly out of shape and ended up getting stuck in my primer feed. I tried every thing to get it out and ended up replacing the large primer feed tube. Yes, it slid out of the pick up tube and got into the machine. I filled it with oil and tossed it. Dillon was fantastic and sent me one no charge. The 2 cent primer cost me 5 days of loading 45's. The wife was happy because I got ahead on the 9 mm which she likes to shoot.

I've had small primers in Speer, Federal, and almost all my Blazer. I, too, sort by head stamp on just 45's for this reason
JJ

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