Case Insert Slide Derails
Quote from Reloader on March 11, 2018, 6:03 pmThe case insert slide derails or starts to derail when moving back on the slide and wedges the cycle to a stop. It only does it when cycling the handle. It appears as if something is causing it to derail. However, when slide is put back on track and pulled back manually, it slides freely back and forth.
I don't see where I can attach a photo, but can I easily take the slide off by compressing the spring and removing the slide spring pin?
The case insert slide derails or starts to derail when moving back on the slide and wedges the cycle to a stop. It only does it when cycling the handle. It appears as if something is causing it to derail. However, when slide is put back on track and pulled back manually, it slides freely back and forth.
I don't see where I can attach a photo, but can I easily take the slide off by compressing the spring and removing the slide spring pin?
Quote from Reloader on March 14, 2018, 2:51 pmTo remove the case feed slide, first remove the cam attached to the top of the slide. Removing this exposes a slot in the top rear of the slide. Now you can remove the screw that secures the slide. Hold your thumb over the rear of the slide as you remove this screw, to prevent the spring and cap from sailing off into the distance.
To remove the case feed slide, first remove the cam attached to the top of the slide. Removing this exposes a slot in the top rear of the slide. Now you can remove the screw that secures the slide. Hold your thumb over the rear of the slide as you remove this screw, to prevent the spring and cap from sailing off into the distance.
Quote from Reloader on March 24, 2018, 8:30 pmThank you for the help. I removed the case insert slide and removed the powder debris that I thought could be the problem. The slide continues to derail as the camming pin pushes the slide back. It appears to be derailing because the pin exerts a downward force on the slide cam when under slide spring tension.
It does not derail if the spring is not in place and is free to slide past the camming pin. I am out of ideas, but will think about it this weekend.
Any thoughts?
Thank you for the help. I removed the case insert slide and removed the powder debris that I thought could be the problem. The slide continues to derail as the camming pin pushes the slide back. It appears to be derailing because the pin exerts a downward force on the slide cam when under slide spring tension.
It does not derail if the spring is not in place and is free to slide past the camming pin. I am out of ideas, but will think about it this weekend.
Any thoughts?
Quote from Reloader on March 25, 2018, 1:58 pmWhen you say "derail", is the slide physically coming off the T shaped part of the platform that it slides on?
The slide is also T shaped and it can move around a bit. At least mine has a bit of play. But it cannot come off the slide unless it is removed by following the instructions to do so. I would have to wonder if has cracked or has a piece broken that holds it onto the T rail portion of the platform.
The T shaped portion of the platform that the side rides on should be well greased. Make sure that the station 1 locator is properly inserted and well greased on the bottom side. If the locator is turned the wrong direction, that may lock up the machine.
When you say "derail", is the slide physically coming off the T shaped part of the platform that it slides on?
The slide is also T shaped and it can move around a bit. At least mine has a bit of play. But it cannot come off the slide unless it is removed by following the instructions to do so. I would have to wonder if has cracked or has a piece broken that holds it onto the T rail portion of the platform.
The T shaped portion of the platform that the side rides on should be well greased. Make sure that the station 1 locator is properly inserted and well greased on the bottom side. If the locator is turned the wrong direction, that may lock up the machine.
Quote from Reloader on March 25, 2018, 2:15 pmThank you for your input. I will check the Station 1 locator. I have never touched it, but maybe something happened to it.
The slide comes off the rail on the back side, then wedges to a stop. It does not come off, just lifts off partially. It is enough to stop the cycle.
Thank you for your input. I will check the Station 1 locator. I have never touched it, but maybe something happened to it.
The slide comes off the rail on the back side, then wedges to a stop. It does not come off, just lifts off partially. It is enough to stop the cycle.
Quote from Reloader on March 26, 2018, 11:00 pmThe underside of the station 1 locator should have a light coating of grease. This dampens vibration and sticks the part in place.
The underside of the station 1 locator should have a light coating of grease. This dampens vibration and sticks the part in place.
Quote from Reloader on March 28, 2018, 1:13 amAdmin and Buffalo were correct. Adding grease to the bottom of the Station 1 locator, solved the problem. I may have slightly bent/tweaked the far side rail open a little learning this lesson, but it works.
Thank you for your help.
Admin and Buffalo were correct. Adding grease to the bottom of the Station 1 locator, solved the problem. I may have slightly bent/tweaked the far side rail open a little learning this lesson, but it works.
Thank you for your help.
Quote from Reloader on June 24, 2018, 8:15 amHaving the same problem, I thought it was the case feeder slide that had worn out so fitted a new one today but the problem persists.
I coated the rail with light oil, no change, removed it and applied grease, no change.
can view images of problem here:
http://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d1.mov
http://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d2.jpeg
http://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d3.jpeg
Having the same problem, I thought it was the case feeder slide that had worn out so fitted a new one today but the problem persists.
I coated the rail with light oil, no change, removed it and applied grease, no change.
can view images of problem here:
http://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d1.mov
http://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d2.jpeg
http://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d3.jpeg
Quote from Reloader on June 24, 2018, 8:16 amhttp://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d1.MOV
this link works sorry
http://www.xxian.com/common/images/650d1.MOV
this link works sorry
Quote from Reloader on August 12, 2018, 10:36 amThere are a few issus on the Case insert Slide its mowement comes from the Camming Pin on it's outher Edge. If there was a Roll Bearing on the Case Fire Body the force would be more even and less tendence for stuck Case Insert Slide in it's outmost position.
The inside of the Case insert Slide against the platform should have less play, friction could futher be lessend with Ballbearings in contact with Platform.
There are a few issus on the Case insert Slide its mowement comes from the Camming Pin on it's outher Edge. If there was a Roll Bearing on the Case Fire Body the force would be more even and less tendence for stuck Case Insert Slide in it's outmost position.
The inside of the Case insert Slide against the platform should have less play, friction could futher be lessend with Ballbearings in contact with Platform.