jamming on locator pins
Quote from Reloader on February 8, 2021, 8:07 pmI recently had to remove case feeding portion of my 650 when the indexer return spring broke - having replaced the spring now (for the first time) I realize I didn't have to remove it but hindsight. I cleaned and lubed everything, reassembled it and everything works fine - until I add brass to the mix. Once I add brass somewhere between the 4th and 6th stroke the shell plate will jam and stop moving, upon inspection I find that the brass is jammed tight with the locator pin at station 3. If I free it and proceed, same results in the 4-6 strokes, if I remove the pin and run the machine without it the same jam occurs at station 5, if I remove that pin the jam moves to station 4 - so something somewhere must be out of alignment slightly but not sure what? I have had the machine apart and back together several times and not sure what is amiss.
Anyone had this issue before?
I recently had to remove case feeding portion of my 650 when the indexer return spring broke - having replaced the spring now (for the first time) I realize I didn't have to remove it but hindsight. I cleaned and lubed everything, reassembled it and everything works fine - until I add brass to the mix. Once I add brass somewhere between the 4th and 6th stroke the shell plate will jam and stop moving, upon inspection I find that the brass is jammed tight with the locator pin at station 3. If I free it and proceed, same results in the 4-6 strokes, if I remove the pin and run the machine without it the same jam occurs at station 5, if I remove that pin the jam moves to station 4 - so something somewhere must be out of alignment slightly but not sure what? I have had the machine apart and back together several times and not sure what is amiss.
Anyone had this issue before?
Quote from Reloader on February 9, 2021, 5:09 pmAre the shells getting pushed into the shell holder sufficiently to clear the locater pins? What cartridge are you reloading? I only load .45 ACP and 9mm. As my shell locater cam wears, the mouth of the case can catch on my sizing die and prevent the case from entering the die. If you are loading cases that are bottlenecked or have a taper, this will not occur even if the cartridge is not fully inserted into shell holder. In that case it might be possible for the cartridge to jam on the locater pins.
Just a thought.
Are the shells getting pushed into the shell holder sufficiently to clear the locater pins? What cartridge are you reloading? I only load .45 ACP and 9mm. As my shell locater cam wears, the mouth of the case can catch on my sizing die and prevent the case from entering the die. If you are loading cases that are bottlenecked or have a taper, this will not occur even if the cartridge is not fully inserted into shell holder. In that case it might be possible for the cartridge to jam on the locater pins.
Just a thought.
Quote from Reloader on February 9, 2021, 6:50 pmThey appear to be fully inserted / pushed into the shell plate, this is on my press set up for 9mm.
They appear to be fully inserted / pushed into the shell plate, this is on my press set up for 9mm.
Quote from Reloader on February 10, 2021, 2:18 pmCan you cause the jam up by manually rotating the shell holder plate manually?
My locater pins have the number 3 stamped on them. The head diameter is 0.372 -0.375 inch. One of my three pins is out of round but has not caused any such problem. You could always slightly reduce their diameters by chucking them up in a drill press and using emery cloth on them.
Can you cause the jam up by manually rotating the shell holder plate manually?
My locater pins have the number 3 stamped on them. The head diameter is 0.372 -0.375 inch. One of my three pins is out of round but has not caused any such problem. You could always slightly reduce their diameters by chucking them up in a drill press and using emery cloth on them.