OLD XL650
Quote from Reloader on February 14, 2014, 6:10 pmSo I inherited an older 650. So old, it has an E-clip holding the primer wheel. The powder bar does not stay in by itself (it has a special clip to hold it). There are no grease fittings any where. The handle does not return to neutral even with the spring on the powder bar maxed out. It does need a thorough cleaning (that's how I noticed the E-clip) and lube. Are there any special lubricants, cleaners or areas that need special attention or should I just go with my gut?
So I inherited an older 650. So old, it has an E-clip holding the primer wheel. The powder bar does not stay in by itself (it has a special clip to hold it). There are no grease fittings any where. The handle does not return to neutral even with the spring on the powder bar maxed out. It does need a thorough cleaning (that's how I noticed the E-clip) and lube. Are there any special lubricants, cleaners or areas that need special attention or should I just go with my gut?
Quote from Reloader on February 14, 2014, 9:25 pmIf it were mine I would call Dillon and have the pros give it a complete rebuild and overhaul. As old as it is anything else I feel would be a waste of time and effort. Call and see what they recommend.
If it were mine I would call Dillon and have the pros give it a complete rebuild and overhaul. As old as it is anything else I feel would be a waste of time and effort. Call and see what they recommend.
Quote from Reloader on February 26, 2014, 6:34 pmCall Big Blue, get a shipping number and send it to AZ for a tune up. It'll come back looking like a shinny new penny and working like a dream.
Call Big Blue, get a shipping number and send it to AZ for a tune up. It'll come back looking like a shinny new penny and working like a dream.
Quote from Reloader on February 28, 2014, 1:25 pmI agree pack it ship it enjoy it!! I will NEVER purchase a different unit then a Dillon it is the best in the industry and if you already have one these guys will take it in go through it and make it once again a machine that's reliable, and fun to use for another 20 years.
I agree pack it ship it enjoy it!! I will NEVER purchase a different unit then a Dillon it is the best in the industry and if you already have one these guys will take it in go through it and make it once again a machine that's reliable, and fun to use for another 20 years.
Quote from Reloader on February 28, 2014, 5:17 pmuse 30 wt or similar motor oil to lube the shaft. Your machine should have needle holes in the crank, link arms and in the frame just above the upper pivot pin. Use a needle fitting on a grease gun to squirt automotive grease into these holes. Don't use WD40, lightweight gun or sewing machine oil on the machine.
Cut a small cloth patch, wet it with alcohol, and use the magazine follower rod to push it through the primer tubes several times to clean their interiors. Alcohol or a detergent cleaner like 409 is a preferred choice.
use 30 wt or similar motor oil to lube the shaft. Your machine should have needle holes in the crank, link arms and in the frame just above the upper pivot pin. Use a needle fitting on a grease gun to squirt automotive grease into these holes. Don't use WD40, lightweight gun or sewing machine oil on the machine.
Cut a small cloth patch, wet it with alcohol, and use the magazine follower rod to push it through the primer tubes several times to clean their interiors. Alcohol or a detergent cleaner like 409 is a preferred choice.
Quote from Reloader on March 1, 2014, 10:02 pmUsed 30 wt on the shaft and ran 500 rnds 40 s&w (after switching out 45 acp). What a great machine! A little bit of a learning curve. A few flipped or crushed primers. I will clean tube as suggested. Received new 650 quick change. The plan is to load 9mm next. I noticed that the failsafe rod is completely different than the one in the instructions. Mine uses a clip to hold it to the bellcrank? , only able to secure one, either the locklink or bellcrank and there are no springs around the powder bar. I could not find any needle holes in the crank. I think I may send it to Dillon for a rebuild. Based on what I am hearing here and on other forums my 650 may be older than I originally thought.
Used 30 wt on the shaft and ran 500 rnds 40 s&w (after switching out 45 acp). What a great machine! A little bit of a learning curve. A few flipped or crushed primers. I will clean tube as suggested. Received new 650 quick change. The plan is to load 9mm next. I noticed that the failsafe rod is completely different than the one in the instructions. Mine uses a clip to hold it to the bellcrank? , only able to secure one, either the locklink or bellcrank and there are no springs around the powder bar. I could not find any needle holes in the crank. I think I may send it to Dillon for a rebuild. Based on what I am hearing here and on other forums my 650 may be older than I originally thought.
Quote from Reloader on March 1, 2014, 10:19 pmUsed 30 wt on the shaft and ran 500 rnds 40 s&w (after switching out 45 acp). What a great machine! A little bit of a learning curve. A few flipped or crushed primers. I will clean tube as suggested. Received new 650 quick change. The plan is to load 9mm next. I noticed that the failsafe rod is completely different than the one in the instructions. Mine uses a clip to hold it to the bellcrank? , only able to secure one, either the locklink or bellcrank and there are no springs around the powder bar. I could not find any needle holes in the crank. I think I may send it to Dillon for a rebuild. Based on what I am hearing here and on other forums my 650 may be older than I originally thought.
Used 30 wt on the shaft and ran 500 rnds 40 s&w (after switching out 45 acp). What a great machine! A little bit of a learning curve. A few flipped or crushed primers. I will clean tube as suggested. Received new 650 quick change. The plan is to load 9mm next. I noticed that the failsafe rod is completely different than the one in the instructions. Mine uses a clip to hold it to the bellcrank? , only able to secure one, either the locklink or bellcrank and there are no springs around the powder bar. I could not find any needle holes in the crank. I think I may send it to Dillon for a rebuild. Based on what I am hearing here and on other forums my 650 may be older than I originally thought.
Quote from Reloader on May 12, 2016, 3:56 amSend it back to Dillon. I gave my dad an old square deal that a buddy of mine found in an old barn on his home place, it was missing lots of parts and was in awful shape. when it got back from Dillon it looked to be a brand new machine ( I think it really was)
Send it back to Dillon. I gave my dad an old square deal that a buddy of mine found in an old barn on his home place, it was missing lots of parts and was in awful shape. when it got back from Dillon it looked to be a brand new machine ( I think it really was)