powder dumping on shell plate
Quote from Reloader on February 8, 2011, 2:56 amI am have a problem with powder spilling onto shell plate and all over the press. I am relaoding 41 mag. using hogdon h110 powder. I have put 2 piece of tape on top of the spacer, what else can i do to fix this problem.
I am have a problem with powder spilling onto shell plate and all over the press. I am relaoding 41 mag. using hogdon h110 powder. I have put 2 piece of tape on top of the spacer, what else can i do to fix this problem.
Quote from Reloader on February 9, 2011, 5:30 pmHow much powder is actually spilling? How much are you flaring the case mouth? To ensure full travel of the powder bar you need to flare cases at least .010" larger than a sized, unflared case mouth. Using the large or small powder bar?
How much powder is actually spilling? How much are you flaring the case mouth? To ensure full travel of the powder bar you need to flare cases at least .010" larger than a sized, unflared case mouth. Using the large or small powder bar?
Quote from Reloader on February 13, 2011, 5:12 amI'm having the same problem.
Loading 9mm with Hogdon's Titegroup powder (4.0 grains).
I tried flaring the case mouth more (I'm flaring about .015" to .020" now) and still no change.
It's only 4-5 flakes per cycle, but after a hundred rounds the shell plate gets a fair bit of powder on it.
I'm having the same problem.
Loading 9mm with Hogdon's Titegroup powder (4.0 grains).
I tried flaring the case mouth more (I'm flaring about .015" to .020" now) and still no change.
It's only 4-5 flakes per cycle, but after a hundred rounds the shell plate gets a fair bit of powder on it.
Quote from Reloader on February 17, 2011, 2:32 pmOn the 9mm, it could be static, or if the shellplate bolt is too loose it can jolt the case when the detent ball clicks into place. For static, cut a long strip from a dryer sheet and tape it to the outside of the top of the hopper, and let the strip dangle down inside the hopper tube to the baffle.
Push down on the edge of the shellplate at the bullet seating station. If it feels springy,then the shellplate bolt needs to be tightened. About 7-8 years ago the detent ball spring was weakened, so there should be no need to clip the spring.
On the 9mm, it could be static, or if the shellplate bolt is too loose it can jolt the case when the detent ball clicks into place. For static, cut a long strip from a dryer sheet and tape it to the outside of the top of the hopper, and let the strip dangle down inside the hopper tube to the baffle.
Push down on the edge of the shellplate at the bullet seating station. If it feels springy,then the shellplate bolt needs to be tightened. About 7-8 years ago the detent ball spring was weakened, so there should be no need to clip the spring.
Quote from Reloader on May 23, 2011, 3:08 pmMy XL650 came set up for 9mm and I too continually have this same problem. After a few hundred rounds, it's A LOT of powder. This also necessitates reweighing a lot of shells. I've tried the "clip the 1/2 coil of index spring" thing suggested by a Dillon rep, and it helped a little but the problem still exists. I normally use HP-38 powder at around a 4.7 gr load with a 124 gr FMJ.
As 9mm seems to be the only caliber with which I have this issue, I may look for a powder that takes up less volume by weight. I've played forever with the tension on the main bolt that holds the shell plate, and once you get it perfect it will minimize the spillage. I also have a great deal of primer feeding (I have actally had 3 go off)and seating problems particular to 9mm.
I have loaded at least 2500 rounds of 9mm and 5 or 6000 rounds of other calibers since I got my press and I have almost zero problems with the other calibers. After a lot of time on the phone with Dillon, and taking my 650 apart dozens of times, I have concluded that it's the brass, not the machine. Again, I only have these issues with 9mm. If you ever mic and/or otherwise measure 9mm brass, it varies all over the place by manufacturer. Other than Federal, I can't really suggest another I really like, I still use them all and just deal with the issues.
BTW: NEVER USE A VACUUM TO CLEAN UP SPILLED POWDER OR PRIMERS.
My XL650 came set up for 9mm and I too continually have this same problem. After a few hundred rounds, it's A LOT of powder. This also necessitates reweighing a lot of shells. I've tried the "clip the 1/2 coil of index spring" thing suggested by a Dillon rep, and it helped a little but the problem still exists. I normally use HP-38 powder at around a 4.7 gr load with a 124 gr FMJ.
As 9mm seems to be the only caliber with which I have this issue, I may look for a powder that takes up less volume by weight. I've played forever with the tension on the main bolt that holds the shell plate, and once you get it perfect it will minimize the spillage. I also have a great deal of primer feeding (I have actally had 3 go off)and seating problems particular to 9mm.
I have loaded at least 2500 rounds of 9mm and 5 or 6000 rounds of other calibers since I got my press and I have almost zero problems with the other calibers. After a lot of time on the phone with Dillon, and taking my 650 apart dozens of times, I have concluded that it's the brass, not the machine. Again, I only have these issues with 9mm. If you ever mic and/or otherwise measure 9mm brass, it varies all over the place by manufacturer. Other than Federal, I can't really suggest another I really like, I still use them all and just deal with the issues.
BTW: NEVER USE A VACUUM TO CLEAN UP SPILLED POWDER OR PRIMERS.
Quote from Reloader on June 1, 2011, 12:23 amIt seems coincidental that it is just the 9mm to blame. I just set mine up over the Memorial Day Weekend and running 45ACP.
I presented this same question on another outside forum.......
"I got my new Dillon XL 650 set up and am ready to go into full production. Nice Reloader by the way. I have noticed after the powder charge (45 ACP using 4.0 grn of Clays) when the shell plate indexes to the bullet seat after the powder check, the clicking of the shell plate causes some powder to hop out of the casing. Its a minute amount (two or three granules) but after a few hundred rounds it could get under the shell plate and start binding or just dirty up the mechanism. I read through troubleshoot and couldnt find a subject. Does it just need breaking in? Shellplate Bolt too tight?"
It seems coincidental that it is just the 9mm to blame. I just set mine up over the Memorial Day Weekend and running 45ACP.
I presented this same question on another outside forum.......
"I got my new Dillon XL 650 set up and am ready to go into full production. Nice Reloader by the way. I have noticed after the powder charge (45 ACP using 4.0 grn of Clays) when the shell plate indexes to the bullet seat after the powder check, the clicking of the shell plate causes some powder to hop out of the casing. Its a minute amount (two or three granules) but after a few hundred rounds it could get under the shell plate and start binding or just dirty up the mechanism. I read through troubleshoot and couldnt find a subject. Does it just need breaking in? Shellplate Bolt too tight?"
Quote from Reloader on June 1, 2011, 1:04 amAnother observation comparing to the competion. The other name brand progressive has a larger diameter shell plate and seems to have a softer index stop. Where as the XL 650 the index comes to an abrupt stop. Could it be that the ball bearing for indexing is the wrong diameter. Or set too high for the detent?
Another observation comparing to the competion. The other name brand progressive has a larger diameter shell plate and seems to have a softer index stop. Where as the XL 650 the index comes to an abrupt stop. Could it be that the ball bearing for indexing is the wrong diameter. Or set too high for the detent?
Quote from Reloader on June 1, 2011, 1:35 amI hope you are not implying that a static condition exists And using dryer sheets to reduce.Static is Not a good mix when using powders and primers.
Instead, Loosend the brass set screw and slightly tightened...where it was too loose the shell plate retaining screw. And tightened down the brass set screw on the ram. Forums are a good thing. It brain storms the conditions of a product I am new to as is others and fixes the conditions. Now a softer index. And no powder spillage.
I hope you are not implying that a static condition exists And using dryer sheets to reduce.Static is Not a good mix when using powders and primers.
Instead, Loosend the brass set screw and slightly tightened...where it was too loose the shell plate retaining screw. And tightened down the brass set screw on the ram. Forums are a good thing. It brain storms the conditions of a product I am new to as is others and fixes the conditions. Now a softer index. And no powder spillage.