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primer pocket swagger problem

I have a Dillon primer pocket swag tool to remove the military crimp. I can't seem to get the pockets deep enough with CCI 400 small rifle primers to fit below the case head. The primer sticks out maybe 5 thousands.

I've had to re-swag with my RCBS single stage and RCBS primer pocket swag die. The RCBS setup is not near as easy to use as the Dillon.

Any suggestions? Is there a minimal amount the primer can stick out and still be safe?

Primers must be seated at least .002" below flush. Adjust the backup rod the case slides over in 1/4 turn increments, trying after each adjustment.

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