Primers Flipped Crushed
Quote from Reloader on February 26, 2014, 5:18 pmI use the Square Deal and 550B presses love em. I have a cousin that has the 650 press and i thought about buying it from him problem is he says it flips primers and crushes them constantly Dillon rebuilt it and still same problem is this a common fault with the 650 or what? I told him Dillon should still take it back in for repair to get it right he just bought competitors machine and uses Dillon some just want prime with it which loses a lot of speed it which it was designed for. I am curious so if it is problematic may want to stay clear of it and stay with what I have already.
Thanks
I use the Square Deal and 550B presses love em. I have a cousin that has the 650 press and i thought about buying it from him problem is he says it flips primers and crushes them constantly Dillon rebuilt it and still same problem is this a common fault with the 650 or what? I told him Dillon should still take it back in for repair to get it right he just bought competitors machine and uses Dillon some just want prime with it which loses a lot of speed it which it was designed for. I am curious so if it is problematic may want to stay clear of it and stay with what I have already.
Thanks
Quote from Reloader on February 26, 2014, 6:30 pmCan't speak for ALL but I had an opportunity to use both the SDB and RL550B before purchasing my XL650 and I couldn't be more satisfied with the press and Dillon. I reload 5 different handgun and 4 rifle calibers with the same press in addition to mass de-capping with that machine and managed to reload 37,000+ round the first full year that I had it.
The primer feed is orders of magnitude more complicated than that on the the smaller presses but if you are diligent and systematic about set up and caliber changes you can produce 700-800 rounds an hour of quality ammo.
Can't speak for ALL but I had an opportunity to use both the SDB and RL550B before purchasing my XL650 and I couldn't be more satisfied with the press and Dillon. I reload 5 different handgun and 4 rifle calibers with the same press in addition to mass de-capping with that machine and managed to reload 37,000+ round the first full year that I had it.
The primer feed is orders of magnitude more complicated than that on the the smaller presses but if you are diligent and systematic about set up and caliber changes you can produce 700-800 rounds an hour of quality ammo.
Quote from Reloader on February 26, 2014, 11:14 pmI have never crushed a primer in the 25K I have loaded. Upside down is a different matter. The last 9 MM I loaded I got three primers upside down in 1,000. I am using the RF-100, which helps on quality control.
What primers are you or your cousin using?
I have never crushed a primer in the 25K I have loaded. Upside down is a different matter. The last 9 MM I loaded I got three primers upside down in 1,000. I am using the RF-100, which helps on quality control.
What primers are you or your cousin using?
Quote from Reloader on February 27, 2014, 7:52 pmIt should not flip primers, nor should it crush primers as long as the primer pockets don't have a crimp in them;ie: military brass.
I would suggest phoning us first, while in front of the machine. Odds are that some easy adjustments will correct this, without any need to send the machine in. If you aren't able to correct the adjustments, sending it in for us to is always an option. The machine has a lifetime warranty.
It should not flip primers, nor should it crush primers as long as the primer pockets don't have a crimp in them;ie: military brass.
I would suggest phoning us first, while in front of the machine. Odds are that some easy adjustments will correct this, without any need to send the machine in. If you aren't able to correct the adjustments, sending it in for us to is always an option. The machine has a lifetime warranty.
Quote from Reloader on February 28, 2014, 1:10 pmAre you sure you have the correct primer plate for what your loading? Also, make sure there isn't a primer stuck under the plate. I'm sure others will agree most of us have had a few issues with primers but not flip primers every single time.
Are you sure you have the correct primer plate for what your loading? Also, make sure there isn't a primer stuck under the plate. I'm sure others will agree most of us have had a few issues with primers but not flip primers every single time.
Quote from Reloader on March 1, 2014, 2:25 pmThanks everyone for help. Thanks Dillon he told me he found small primer arm bent and is getting new one that may do it.
Thanks again
Thanks everyone for help. Thanks Dillon he told me he found small primer arm bent and is getting new one that may do it.
Thanks again
Quote from Reloader on March 4, 2014, 7:10 amI am having the same trouble on my 650 About 18% of the reloads (.223) have "wiped or sideways or no primers (they fell out in the hopper--all the loose primers were mangled)
I am using CCI small rifle primers and all of the brass was run through my Dillon swager. The primer indexing arm has bent on me 3 times now. My original, a replacement Dillon sent me and now the arm on a spare primer feed system I ordered is bent.This seems to be causing the shellplate to not center over the primer ram--I'm going to go out on a limb here and say-- about 18%of the time. I am clearly doing something wrong here and when I converted my older 650 to reload .223's including changing the primer plate and ram to small, that indexing arm went out of whack too. Both presses are securely mounted on strong mounts, all the cases were swaged, I am using BLC-2 powder, CCI Primers The indexing arm bent on the factory installed primer feed as well as the factory assembled spare primer feed I had so I cannot blame myself on all of these issues.
I have never had any trouble with my Square Deal B's so this is quite a disappointment.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
I am having the same trouble on my 650 About 18% of the reloads (.223) have "wiped or sideways or no primers (they fell out in the hopper--all the loose primers were mangled)
I am using CCI small rifle primers and all of the brass was run through my Dillon swager. The primer indexing arm has bent on me 3 times now. My original, a replacement Dillon sent me and now the arm on a spare primer feed system I ordered is bent.This seems to be causing the shellplate to not center over the primer ram--I'm going to go out on a limb here and say-- about 18%of the time. I am clearly doing something wrong here and when I converted my older 650 to reload .223's including changing the primer plate and ram to small, that indexing arm went out of whack too. Both presses are securely mounted on strong mounts, all the cases were swaged, I am using BLC-2 powder, CCI Primers The indexing arm bent on the factory installed primer feed as well as the factory assembled spare primer feed I had so I cannot blame myself on all of these issues.
I have never had any trouble with my Square Deal B's so this is quite a disappointment.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Quote from Reloader on March 5, 2014, 10:14 pmI load at least 1000-1500 rounds two/three time a year with a xl-650and have not experienced a problem like that in 10 plus years. I do keep my XL clan and it in top shape though.
I load at least 1000-1500 rounds two/three time a year with a xl-650and have not experienced a problem like that in 10 plus years. I do keep my XL clan and it in top shape though.
Quote from Reloader on March 15, 2014, 1:28 pmI was havig the same problem on my 650 and it turned out to be a timing issue. Look to see if your primer seater is perfectly centered in the shell plate. If not adust the timing cam block on the left side of the frame until the seating pin is perfectly centered.
I was havig the same problem on my 650 and it turned out to be a timing issue. Look to see if your primer seater is perfectly centered in the shell plate. If not adust the timing cam block on the left side of the frame until the seating pin is perfectly centered.