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RCBS "Lock Out" Die

Does anyone have any experience using an RCBS "Lock Out" die on an XL650?  I does the same thing as the Dillon powder checker, that it it prevents continuing operation if a powder charge is missing or doubled charged.  It is significantly less expensive than the Dillon system and seems a bit easier to set up.  

Midway's customer comments about it are generally favorable but no one reported using it on a Dillon. 

I've used a Square Deal B for almost 15 years without any powder checkers  (the SDB doesn't have a place to fit one) and never had a squib or double charge so I'm uncertain if it's worth the effort and cost.

Any comments or recommendations?

We have not tried it, but I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work. The advantage of the Dillon powder check is that it has an audible alarm, so you don't have to pay close attention to it.

Davidhb

 

I didn't purchase the powder checker with my 650.  The reason I didn't was it is really difficult to double charge a round when you have AUTO INDEXING.  Now you could run out of powder, but if you are like me, and want consistent loads, I find that keeping the powder measure above 25% full will result in much more consistent loads.   Its very difficult to backup the shell plate - but not impossible - and if you do that, you should know about it.

 

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

 

I use a RCBS "lockout" die and for my use prefer it to the dillon powder checker.  My hearing of the short, high pitched, brief beep was a problem.  The lockout die would be even be effective for a deaf person.  A "no charge" or "double charge" brings the whole process to a standstill til you correct the problem.

I belive a big improvement to the dillon system would be a "manual reset" requirement to silence the buzzer when it detects a problem. I don't load too fast but still I belive it's too easy, "when cranking right along" to miss the brief beep. 

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