Ring Indexer Break
Quote from Reloader on October 23, 2013, 3:25 amWell - My new 650 has a broken ring indexer and
A. I have no Idea how it happened, it is sheared on the left side of the index pall inset.
B. It took me almost 30 minutes to find the problem as even after adjusting the shell plate (9mm) tension it was still jumping and ejecting a .10 grn powder as it rotated and then just woulden't line up for a new case. At first I couldn't see it as the break is so clean and angular that I thought it was extruded that way but it is a break as the diagran shows it as a solid piece.
C. Because of how the index spring wraps around the mainshaft and from the awesome diagram of its assembly, I am absolutely certain that if I try to just order a new part I can never disassemble and reassemble this thing without thuroughly screwing it up. I had the caliber change done and reassembly finished and it just stopped completely advancing.
Has anybody ever done a tear down of this monster of perfection that I have just proven is not IDIOT proof? I have loaded over 4K of 40 S&W without a hitch and then decided to try doing my first 9mm rounds and I manage to break it. HELP!! Feinstein is probably coming and I can't load ammo.
Thnx in advance as I really am intimidated with its construction.
Mark
Well - My new 650 has a broken ring indexer and
A. I have no Idea how it happened, it is sheared on the left side of the index pall inset.
B. It took me almost 30 minutes to find the problem as even after adjusting the shell plate (9mm) tension it was still jumping and ejecting a .10 grn powder as it rotated and then just woulden't line up for a new case. At first I couldn't see it as the break is so clean and angular that I thought it was extruded that way but it is a break as the diagran shows it as a solid piece.
C. Because of how the index spring wraps around the mainshaft and from the awesome diagram of its assembly, I am absolutely certain that if I try to just order a new part I can never disassemble and reassemble this thing without thuroughly screwing it up. I had the caliber change done and reassembly finished and it just stopped completely advancing.
Has anybody ever done a tear down of this monster of perfection that I have just proven is not IDIOT proof? I have loaded over 4K of 40 S&W without a hitch and then decided to try doing my first 9mm rounds and I manage to break it. HELP!! Feinstein is probably coming and I can't load ammo.
Thnx in advance as I really am intimidated with its construction.
Mark
Quote from Reloader on October 23, 2013, 5:26 amOK - here is the skinny, yes I could disassemble it BECAUSE all of the parts needed were in the SPARE PARTS KIT that was obviously put together by a genius that knew I was gonna break it!! Now the little bit about getting the index ring on the post and stretching it around and then attaching it on the other side - honest I didn't know she was your wife! the metal post has a holding indent and the post on the plastic index ring needs thye same feature so you don't go chasing the little spring across the floor 8 times. Please!! Now guys if you don't have a spare parts kit order one, this little packet is better than FREE COLD BEER, watch out Feinstein! the Dillon is back on line!!
OK - here is the skinny, yes I could disassemble it BECAUSE all of the parts needed were in the SPARE PARTS KIT that was obviously put together by a genius that knew I was gonna break it!! Now the little bit about getting the index ring on the post and stretching it around and then attaching it on the other side - honest I didn't know she was your wife! the metal post has a holding indent and the post on the plastic index ring needs thye same feature so you don't go chasing the little spring across the floor 8 times. Please!! Now guys if you don't have a spare parts kit order one, this little packet is better than FREE COLD BEER, watch out Feinstein! the Dillon is back on line!!
Quote from Reloader on October 23, 2013, 12:57 pmSame thing happened to me and I was a little intimidated also. Dillon sent me an indexer and alignment tool. It took a little time and the hardest part was getting that spring wrapped back around. Since the repair the machine works great and it helped with primer alignment.
Just follow the directions, be slow and methodical and you will get it done. If I can do it, so can you.
Same thing happened to me and I was a little intimidated also. Dillon sent me an indexer and alignment tool. It took a little time and the hardest part was getting that spring wrapped back around. Since the repair the machine works great and it helped with primer alignment.
Just follow the directions, be slow and methodical and you will get it done. If I can do it, so can you.
Quote from Reloader on October 23, 2013, 9:54 pmSame thing happened to me and I was a little intimidated also. Dillon sent me an indexer and alignment tool. It took a little time and the hardest part was getting that spring wrapped back around. Since the repair the machine works great and it helped with primer alignment.
Just follow the directions, be slow and methodical and you will get it done. If I can do it, so can you.
Same thing happened to me and I was a little intimidated also. Dillon sent me an indexer and alignment tool. It took a little time and the hardest part was getting that spring wrapped back around. Since the repair the machine works great and it helped with primer alignment.
Just follow the directions, be slow and methodical and you will get it done. If I can do it, so can you.
Quote from Reloader on November 1, 2013, 8:40 pmIf you read the instructions there is a line in there about using a piece of string in the end of the spring and using the string to pull the spring around to the post that it attaches to.
When my index ring broke I installed the spring the way Dillon said and it went easy as pie.
If you read the instructions there is a line in there about using a piece of string in the end of the spring and using the string to pull the spring around to the post that it attaches to.
When my index ring broke I installed the spring the way Dillon said and it went easy as pie.