Scratching my head
Quote from Reloader on October 7, 2012, 11:50 amGreetings,
I recently started reloading and bought a 650 to start reloading .45's. After finally getting things up and running I'm reloading .230 jacket ammo for me and 200SWC's for a good friend of mine. Here is 2 questions for the group.
A few days ago I was loading the 230's the machine was working flawless and when I was done I cleaned the machine and closed up shop. When I go back to reloading and I checked the powder charge ( after filling the powder hopper ) and seating die's to make sure everything was set. Before I could do anything I found the primer indexing arm was really tight and wouldn't allow the machine to cycle. I took it aprart and everything was normal so I put it back together and it worked normal. Then I charged a case and checked that the seat was correct. So I finish setting up and start cranking out rounds. I checked a round after 12 or so and the bullet grew. I had my OAL set for 1.250 and I had several rnds at 1.258. I checked and the seating die was tight on the tool head. So I re set the die and problem solved.
So the question here are is it normal to have to work on a machine so much after a few days of not reloading? And why did the rnds. grow if I was relaoding the same ammo? I did check the brass and the bullets. They was all within a .001 of each other..
Thanks in advance,
Frank
Greetings,
I recently started reloading and bought a 650 to start reloading .45's. After finally getting things up and running I'm reloading .230 jacket ammo for me and 200SWC's for a good friend of mine. Here is 2 questions for the group.
A few days ago I was loading the 230's the machine was working flawless and when I was done I cleaned the machine and closed up shop. When I go back to reloading and I checked the powder charge ( after filling the powder hopper ) and seating die's to make sure everything was set. Before I could do anything I found the primer indexing arm was really tight and wouldn't allow the machine to cycle. I took it aprart and everything was normal so I put it back together and it worked normal. Then I charged a case and checked that the seat was correct. So I finish setting up and start cranking out rounds. I checked a round after 12 or so and the bullet grew. I had my OAL set for 1.250 and I had several rnds at 1.258. I checked and the seating die was tight on the tool head. So I re set the die and problem solved.
So the question here are is it normal to have to work on a machine so much after a few days of not reloading? And why did the rnds. grow if I was relaoding the same ammo? I did check the brass and the bullets. They was all within a .001 of each other..
Thanks in advance,
Frank
Quote from Reloader on October 8, 2012, 5:04 pmI could be wrong here, but i believe one way you get variations in OAL is when your sizing/decapping die is not set low enough. I think what you're supposed to do is set it so it's all the way down to the shell plate and then just slightly farther so that the slop in the tool head is gone. Before you do that though, let Dillon or a more experienced reloader confirm what i've said.
I could be wrong here, but i believe one way you get variations in OAL is when your sizing/decapping die is not set low enough. I think what you're supposed to do is set it so it's all the way down to the shell plate and then just slightly farther so that the slop in the tool head is gone. Before you do that though, let Dillon or a more experienced reloader confirm what i've said.
Quote from Reloader on October 21, 2012, 2:00 amI have broken 2 primer arms because an old primer either not pushing out, or stuck on the deprimer and pulled back in. When that shell got to the primer station, when I tried to put in a new primer into an already full pocket the new primer crushed. And when the machine advanced the broken up primer caused the primer disc bind and eventually jamb. In turn the jamb cause the primer arm to break. It's happend to me twice. The first time I had no clue. The second incident is when I actually figured out what was causing the primer disc to jamb up.
I have broken 2 primer arms because an old primer either not pushing out, or stuck on the deprimer and pulled back in. When that shell got to the primer station, when I tried to put in a new primer into an already full pocket the new primer crushed. And when the machine advanced the broken up primer caused the primer disc bind and eventually jamb. In turn the jamb cause the primer arm to break. It's happend to me twice. The first time I had no clue. The second incident is when I actually figured out what was causing the primer disc to jamb up.
Quote from Reloader on October 22, 2012, 3:44 pmWe always recommend adjusting the seating die with a fired case in station one. This ensures the toolhead is loaded upward the same way it is when actually loading. Expect easily .005-.015" OAL variation, especially when loading RN bullets. The diameter on the curve of the bullet where the seat stem contacts it can be in different places from one bullet to the next. This is normal, and well within SAAMI tolerances.
We always recommend adjusting the seating die with a fired case in station one. This ensures the toolhead is loaded upward the same way it is when actually loading. Expect easily .005-.015" OAL variation, especially when loading RN bullets. The diameter on the curve of the bullet where the seat stem contacts it can be in different places from one bullet to the next. This is normal, and well within SAAMI tolerances.