Small Problem with my 650
Quote from Reloader on March 31, 2009, 6:47 pmI really need some help. I apologize if this post is long, but I want to describe what i've done so far so that maybe someone can help me out. The problem is simply that a good portion of the time, the brass winds up out of alignment with the powder funnel at the number 2 station. If i back off and come back up again 2 or 3 times (or press the brass with my finger) the funnel will eventually drop in and all is well. This is using a brand new .38/.357 conversion kit, using Dillon carbide dies and the dillon powder die/powder funnel. The press seems to index properly as I am having no problem lining up with the other dies. The best way I can describe it is that the funnel seems to hit the left side of the brass (when looking from the operators angle) instead of droping right in the middle which results in crushing the brass.
So far I have in no particular order:
1) Double checked adjustment of camming pin
2) Tried every possible adjustment of the station 2 locator arm. I have tried it touching the brass, completely away from the brass, and "about a business card thickness away from the brass" as per the manual.
3) I have cleaned under the shell plate and checked for obstructions.
4) Tried several different makes of brass
5) Called Dillon
6) After talking to dillon about all the above options the last suggestion they could offer me is to make sure the shell plate isint loose, they had me tighten it down all the way so that it could not index, and then back off 1/8 of a turn.The most frustrating thing is it will sometimes work a few cases in a row, so I will starting loading along and next thing know .. crush... as I hit the edge of case with the powder funnel.
If anyone can give some suggestions I would be thankful, I am so ready to be using this nice machine. I am amazed at the powder system, it seems to be very accurate. The primer system also seems to be working great.
Any help would be apprecaited, even with this small problem I've been able to load some nice rounds but I would love to get this fixed.
I really need some help. I apologize if this post is long, but I want to describe what i've done so far so that maybe someone can help me out. The problem is simply that a good portion of the time, the brass winds up out of alignment with the powder funnel at the number 2 station. If i back off and come back up again 2 or 3 times (or press the brass with my finger) the funnel will eventually drop in and all is well. This is using a brand new .38/.357 conversion kit, using Dillon carbide dies and the dillon powder die/powder funnel. The press seems to index properly as I am having no problem lining up with the other dies. The best way I can describe it is that the funnel seems to hit the left side of the brass (when looking from the operators angle) instead of droping right in the middle which results in crushing the brass.
So far I have in no particular order:
1) Double checked adjustment of camming pin
2) Tried every possible adjustment of the station 2 locator arm. I have tried it touching the brass, completely away from the brass, and "about a business card thickness away from the brass" as per the manual.
3) I have cleaned under the shell plate and checked for obstructions.
4) Tried several different makes of brass
5) Called Dillon
6) After talking to dillon about all the above options the last suggestion they could offer me is to make sure the shell plate isint loose, they had me tighten it down all the way so that it could not index, and then back off 1/8 of a turn.
The most frustrating thing is it will sometimes work a few cases in a row, so I will starting loading along and next thing know .. crush... as I hit the edge of case with the powder funnel.
If anyone can give some suggestions I would be thankful, I am so ready to be using this nice machine. I am amazed at the powder system, it seems to be very accurate. The primer system also seems to be working great.
Any help would be apprecaited, even with this small problem I've been able to load some nice rounds but I would love to get this fixed.
Quote from Reloader on April 1, 2009, 12:52 amTonight I took a very low quality video of this issue. I apologize for it being terrible quality and the primer alarm went off during the video but maybe at the end of the video yo can see how the powder tube is sitting on the edge of the brass.
Here is the video in quicktime format
http://people.clemson.edu/~jclayto/Dillon.mov
Any help is much appreciated
Tonight I took a very low quality video of this issue. I apologize for it being terrible quality and the primer alarm went off during the video but maybe at the end of the video yo can see how the powder tube is sitting on the edge of the brass.
Here is the video in quicktime format
http://people.clemson.edu/~jclayto/Dillon.mov
Any help is much appreciated
Quote from Reloader on April 3, 2009, 9:12 pmSorry, but I am unable to open to movie file. If the shellplate bolt is snug enough, and the metal finger that keeps the case from backing out of the shellplate at station 2 are adjusted correctly, there are only a couple of possibilities left.
1) loosen the lock ring on the powder measure die, and with a fired case in station 1 and a sized case in station 2, pull the handle down and leave it down. Now, tighten the die lock ring with the case activating the powder measure.
2) measure the O.D. of the powder funnel, and the I.D. of the powder die. Wondering if you have an XL powder die instead of the standard powder die. I.D. of a standard powder die is approximately .555"-.560".
Sorry, but I am unable to open to movie file. If the shellplate bolt is snug enough, and the metal finger that keeps the case from backing out of the shellplate at station 2 are adjusted correctly, there are only a couple of possibilities left.
1) loosen the lock ring on the powder measure die, and with a fired case in station 1 and a sized case in station 2, pull the handle down and leave it down. Now, tighten the die lock ring with the case activating the powder measure.
2) measure the O.D. of the powder funnel, and the I.D. of the powder die. Wondering if you have an XL powder die instead of the standard powder die. I.D. of a standard powder die is approximately .555"-.560".
Quote from Reloader on October 11, 2018, 4:46 amI'm sorry to bring back a long gone thread but I am having EXACTLY this problem.
Did anyone figure this out? It's driving me nuts.
I'm sorry to bring back a long gone thread but I am having EXACTLY this problem.
Did anyone figure this out? It's driving me nuts.
Quote from Reloader on October 11, 2018, 4:40 pmI recommend phoning us while you are in front of the machine for best possible assistance.
If you email us a request for the two alignment tools for the XL650, please include your address. These are easy to use and will likely resolve your alignment issue.
I recommend phoning us while you are in front of the machine for best possible assistance.
If you email us a request for the two alignment tools for the XL650, please include your address. These are easy to use and will likely resolve your alignment issue.
Quote from Reloader on October 13, 2018, 11:51 pmPossibly you have dirt or powder stuck a couple of your shell plate where the empty cartridge is pushed into the shell plate not allowing the case to go all the way in to the shell plate.
Make sure your shell plate is clean use a pick to get any crude out of the shell plate recesses
Possibly you have dirt or powder stuck a couple of your shell plate where the empty cartridge is pushed into the shell plate not allowing the case to go all the way in to the shell plate.
Make sure your shell plate is clean use a pick to get any crude out of the shell plate recesses