so no dies?
Quote from Reloader on November 26, 2009, 1:50 amI came here to order a set of dies for 45-70. I can't seem to find anything in any other caliber than 223, 308 or 30-06.
Is there a production problem or am I missing something?
I came here to order a set of dies for 45-70. I can't seem to find anything in any other caliber than 223, 308 or 30-06.
Is there a production problem or am I missing something?
Quote from Reloader on January 24, 2010, 7:04 amSo I ordered my redding dies, set 12700 as suggested.
I finally started setting them up tonight.
To my surprise, they are a 3 die set, with a sizer/deprimer, expander die, and a combo seating/crimping die. I guess I was expecting that the set would include dies that match up with the 4 stations on the 550.
So now, I have a usless expander die from Redding, since the dillon powder/exapander die is going to do that job, and a combo seating/crimping die which both Dillon and Redding suggest be done in two seperate operations. And, when you read the paperwork that came with the redding die, they do offer a seperate crimp only die. This leads me to the question, why don't dillon and redding get on the same page and make up a die set that matches the 550 set up? Redding already makes a crimp only die, so why not drop the expander die, and throw in the crimp only die and call it the Dillon progressive die set or something? I feel like I spent a lot of money for something that isn't quite right.
Now that I have vented, both the dillon instruction manual and the redding instructions convienently ignore setting up what amounts to a two die set in the 550. Since Dillon knows what comes in these sets and in fact sells them through their site, I would have hoped to have a section on how to set them up.
Do I skip station 4 and only set up station 1 to deprime/size, station 2 to powder and bell, and station 3 to seat/crimp and leave station 4 open?
at nearly $100 for a caliber conversion, maybe I expect too much to have dies sold through the OEM match up with the press. Especially when the die maker MAKES the dies that would do that.
So I ordered my redding dies, set 12700 as suggested.
I finally started setting them up tonight.
To my surprise, they are a 3 die set, with a sizer/deprimer, expander die, and a combo seating/crimping die. I guess I was expecting that the set would include dies that match up with the 4 stations on the 550.
So now, I have a usless expander die from Redding, since the dillon powder/exapander die is going to do that job, and a combo seating/crimping die which both Dillon and Redding suggest be done in two seperate operations. And, when you read the paperwork that came with the redding die, they do offer a seperate crimp only die. This leads me to the question, why don't dillon and redding get on the same page and make up a die set that matches the 550 set up? Redding already makes a crimp only die, so why not drop the expander die, and throw in the crimp only die and call it the Dillon progressive die set or something? I feel like I spent a lot of money for something that isn't quite right.
Now that I have vented, both the dillon instruction manual and the redding instructions convienently ignore setting up what amounts to a two die set in the 550. Since Dillon knows what comes in these sets and in fact sells them through their site, I would have hoped to have a section on how to set them up.
Do I skip station 4 and only set up station 1 to deprime/size, station 2 to powder and bell, and station 3 to seat/crimp and leave station 4 open?
at nearly $100 for a caliber conversion, maybe I expect too much to have dies sold through the OEM match up with the press. Especially when the die maker MAKES the dies that would do that.
Quote from Reloader on February 24, 2011, 7:28 pmBear in mind that the dies are all made for the "typical" single stage press. To get a package of dies without having to order them singularly and then complain is like buying a cheeseburger at McDonald's and complaining that it is slapped together.
"Back in the day" dies were ordered, made, and delivered one at a time and for specific uses. Today, the package deals are put together in order to provide a complete set for ALL reloading situations, not just yours specifically.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people forget that they are part of a collective whole that must be satisfied.
Bear in mind that the dies are all made for the "typical" single stage press. To get a package of dies without having to order them singularly and then complain is like buying a cheeseburger at McDonald's and complaining that it is slapped together.
"Back in the day" dies were ordered, made, and delivered one at a time and for specific uses. Today, the package deals are put together in order to provide a complete set for ALL reloading situations, not just yours specifically.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people forget that they are part of a collective whole that must be satisfied.