Stuck brass extraction
Quote from Reloader on March 4, 2012, 6:30 pmI got a different one. Was sizing this AM on brass that I had sprayed with lube last night and let sit overnight. Was running fine till I got a case that came apart about a half inch up from the rim. Cycled fine and didn't give any indication it would be a problem. Just at the end of the stroke there was about 3/4 of the brass still in the die with the expander ball still in the brass.
Now I have a piece of brass that looks like a pistol case and the rest is still in the die. I tried running the expander bolt all the way down but it's not addingany value. Even if I do get the expander ball out then I still have a piece of brass with no bottom on it stuck up in the die. It's a 308 carbide sizing die so I hope there is some hope. Any suggestions?
I got a different one. Was sizing this AM on brass that I had sprayed with lube last night and let sit overnight. Was running fine till I got a case that came apart about a half inch up from the rim. Cycled fine and didn't give any indication it would be a problem. Just at the end of the stroke there was about 3/4 of the brass still in the die with the expander ball still in the brass.
Now I have a piece of brass that looks like a pistol case and the rest is still in the die. I tried running the expander bolt all the way down but it's not addingany value. Even if I do get the expander ball out then I still have a piece of brass with no bottom on it stuck up in the die. It's a 308 carbide sizing die so I hope there is some hope. Any suggestions?
Quote from Reloader on March 5, 2012, 3:30 pmA case separation is an ugly thing. Call or e-mail us for a return authorization to send the die in. It can be removed, but requires some special tools.
A case separation is an ugly thing. Call or e-mail us for a return authorization to send the die in. It can be removed, but requires some special tools.
Quote from Reloader on March 5, 2012, 7:39 pmWell that went over like a fart in church. I called and waited 25 minutes to talk to Gary. He then wanted a detailed explanation on what I meant by a seperated case. I had to listen to his disortation on how I could take it apart myself. He indicated there were flat spots beneath the expander ball that you can get a wrench on if you screwed the depriming bolt all the way in. I tried to explain that was not the case and that the expander ball just tapered down into depriming pin and that the flat spots were further up the shaft and that I could not get to them. He insisted he knew how they were made and that he was not gonna argue with me. Really? I propose if you screw the depriming bolt all the way into the die you cannot get to the flat spots on the expander ball assembly. Just ain't gonna happen.
What a humiliating conversation. I guess I'll go home tonight and clamp vice grips on the 1/4 inch of expander ball that exposes when the pin extracter bolt is screwed all the way in (Gary sez there will be flat spots so I should be good, right?) and just buy a new carbide expander ball if I ever get the brass out. Or maybe I'll just buy an RCBS. Not real happy with Gary's terrible customer etiquitte right now. Sure hope that is not the voice of dillon. I guess I'm off to try and resolve this myself.
Well that went over like a fart in church. I called and waited 25 minutes to talk to Gary. He then wanted a detailed explanation on what I meant by a seperated case. I had to listen to his disortation on how I could take it apart myself. He indicated there were flat spots beneath the expander ball that you can get a wrench on if you screwed the depriming bolt all the way in. I tried to explain that was not the case and that the expander ball just tapered down into depriming pin and that the flat spots were further up the shaft and that I could not get to them. He insisted he knew how they were made and that he was not gonna argue with me. Really? I propose if you screw the depriming bolt all the way into the die you cannot get to the flat spots on the expander ball assembly. Just ain't gonna happen.
What a humiliating conversation. I guess I'll go home tonight and clamp vice grips on the 1/4 inch of expander ball that exposes when the pin extracter bolt is screwed all the way in (Gary sez there will be flat spots so I should be good, right?) and just buy a new carbide expander ball if I ever get the brass out. Or maybe I'll just buy an RCBS. Not real happy with Gary's terrible customer etiquitte right now. Sure hope that is not the voice of dillon. I guess I'm off to try and resolve this myself.
Quote from Reloader on March 6, 2012, 3:30 pmOuch! So sorry to hear! Send an email to garyk@dillonprecision.com (not the same Gary) and include your address so I can create a return authorization for you. The decap assembly will thread out the top. You have to use a wrench to hold the small jam nut down against the top of the die to have sufficient threads to back it out. It will be stiff, as the carbide expander ball is stretching and thinning the case neck out enough to allow the carbide ball past it.
Ouch! So sorry to hear! Send an email to @dillonprecision.com">garyk@dillonprecision.com (not the same Gary) and include your address so I can create a return authorization for you. The decap assembly will thread out the top. You have to use a wrench to hold the small jam nut down against the top of the die to have sufficient threads to back it out. It will be stiff, as the carbide expander ball is stretching and thinning the case neck out enough to allow the carbide ball past it.
Quote from Reloader on March 11, 2012, 8:33 pmI'm sorry you had a problem with Gary on the phone. The Gary that I talked to on the phonehas always been very helpful and very professional. Maybe he was just having a bad day. I just want to thank Gary and all the people at Dillon for the help they have given me when I called about any problems I have had with my Dillon products. Thanks, Danny
I'm sorry you had a problem with Gary on the phone. The Gary that I talked to on the phonehas always been very helpful and very professional. Maybe he was just having a bad day. I just want to thank Gary and all the people at Dillon for the help they have given me when I called about any problems I have had with my Dillon products. Thanks, Danny