Work-up new loads
Quote from Reloader on April 29, 2015, 12:38 pmDoes anyone have an organized, workable way to work-up new loads. This 550b is great if I'm ready to run a hundred or 500 identical rounds but, what about getting to that point. I'm just starting 9mm and have several powders and several bullets to try. I have loaded rifle before on a single stage where I measured every step of every round and only needed 3 rounds to test a load's accuracy. But, here, especially with the powder, setup takes a good bit.
What procedure do you find workable for new loads on 550b? Having 2ea 9mm's I probably need 20 (10 each gun) of each recipe to be sure of the grouping.
Appreciate any tips on this.
Regis
Does anyone have an organized, workable way to work-up new loads. This 550b is great if I'm ready to run a hundred or 500 identical rounds but, what about getting to that point. I'm just starting 9mm and have several powders and several bullets to try. I have loaded rifle before on a single stage where I measured every step of every round and only needed 3 rounds to test a load's accuracy. But, here, especially with the powder, setup takes a good bit.
What procedure do you find workable for new loads on 550b? Having 2ea 9mm's I probably need 20 (10 each gun) of each recipe to be sure of the grouping.
Appreciate any tips on this.
Regis
Quote from Reloader on April 29, 2015, 4:58 pmOn most calibers I load ten samples for handgun, six for rifle. I start at the lower end of the suggested powder charge, and go up .3 grain at a time. On handgun and semi auto rifles, the firearm must cycle reliably first, then I shoot for groups, once I find where the functional minimum is.
On most calibers I load ten samples for handgun, six for rifle. I start at the lower end of the suggested powder charge, and go up .3 grain at a time. On handgun and semi auto rifles, the firearm must cycle reliably first, then I shoot for groups, once I find where the functional minimum is.
Quote from Reloader on April 29, 2015, 7:45 pmThank you BUT, I was talking about the process of going through different powders and bullets and not merely going from starting load and working up.
Do you go through swapping powders for one bullets type?? Or Do you use one powder and change amount for different bullet weights? Or is there a simple way?
Thanks,
Regis
Thank you BUT, I was talking about the process of going through different powders and bullets and not merely going from starting load and working up.
Do you go through swapping powders for one bullets type?? Or Do you use one powder and change amount for different bullet weights? Or is there a simple way?
Thanks,
Regis
Quote from Reloader on April 30, 2015, 12:08 amThis is the solution I use for rifle loads that I am working up. The same could be used for powder.
I set the dillon loader to the low end of the load I am working up. Prime the case and drop the powder. Move power to the scale, trickle in any 'more' that is needed. Move to the bullet seating station and final crimp. Load up the number at that range (3 to as someone said 10 - for rifle I have never needed more than 6). Then repeat for next range, more trickling to get larger powder. Repeat until that bullet type and powder ranges are done.
Set up for next bullet type and repeat process for the number of loads needed. As this is a every once in a while thing I am willing to take the time to go slow ... Once the correct powder and bullet setting is found, then set the powder for that drop weight and set the bullet seating station... then load large numbers and get to the range so the process has to be repeated!
Safe loading, have fun!
This is the solution I use for rifle loads that I am working up. The same could be used for powder.
I set the dillon loader to the low end of the load I am working up. Prime the case and drop the powder. Move power to the scale, trickle in any 'more' that is needed. Move to the bullet seating station and final crimp. Load up the number at that range (3 to as someone said 10 - for rifle I have never needed more than 6). Then repeat for next range, more trickling to get larger powder. Repeat until that bullet type and powder ranges are done.
Set up for next bullet type and repeat process for the number of loads needed. As this is a every once in a while thing I am willing to take the time to go slow ... Once the correct powder and bullet setting is found, then set the powder for that drop weight and set the bullet seating station... then load large numbers and get to the range so the process has to be repeated!
Safe loading, have fun!
Quote from Reloader on April 30, 2015, 2:28 amThanks lcb. That sounds like a reasonable approach. For rifle, I never needed as many rounds as I do for pistol to check a load.
Thanks lcb. That sounds like a reasonable approach. For rifle, I never needed as many rounds as I do for pistol to check a load.
Quote from Reloader on May 5, 2015, 3:05 pmWhat powders are you trying out? I started with HP38, then went to Bullseye, then to Titegroup. I found Titegroup very clean. I load 115, 124, 135, and 147 grain bullets with it. You can dial in the load quite easily. I also found that you average the powder, (Measure 3 or 4 drops of powder onto your scale and divide by 3 or 4) You will have more consistency with your loads afterwards. I also sort my brass, mostly because I can. It does make my loads very uniform and consistent.
What powders are you trying out? I started with HP38, then went to Bullseye, then to Titegroup. I found Titegroup very clean. I load 115, 124, 135, and 147 grain bullets with it. You can dial in the load quite easily. I also found that you average the powder, (Measure 3 or 4 drops of powder onto your scale and divide by 3 or 4) You will have more consistency with your loads afterwards. I also sort my brass, mostly because I can. It does make my loads very uniform and consistent.
Quote from Reloader on May 5, 2015, 10:00 pmThanks ptvolkmar. I think that I should work with one powder before moving on. Get the best out of one powder first. By trying to start with 3 powders, I have certainly complicated things for myself.
RegisG
Thanks ptvolkmar. I think that I should work with one powder before moving on. Get the best out of one powder first. By trying to start with 3 powders, I have certainly complicated things for myself.
RegisG