XL 650 swager - warranty voided?
Quote from Reloader on March 1, 2015, 4:14 pmThere is an add-on swager for the XL 650 being sold on EBay - "G.S. Custom Primer Pocket Swager"; According to some on-line sources, installation of this device on an XL650 voids the Dillon warranty.
Is this correct? If so, why?
Many thanks.
There is an add-on swager for the XL 650 being sold on EBay - "G.S. Custom Primer Pocket Swager"; According to some on-line sources, installation of this device on an XL650 voids the Dillon warranty.
Is this correct? If so, why?
Many thanks.
Quote from Reloader on March 13, 2015, 11:37 pmThis item is an unauthorized modification to the machine, and installation of one on a Dillon machine voids the warranty.
This item is an unauthorized modification to the machine, and installation of one on a Dillon machine voids the warranty.
Quote from Reloader on May 17, 2015, 2:34 pmI've seen this same thing myself. In my opinion, it would put too much upward pressure on the shellplate that is not supported. Could break the shellplate bolt. Even with the Dillon super swager you have to make adjustments or you will over swage. Its hard to explain but the crimps are different. If you are using the gs custom swaged on light crimps and then get a heavy in there it could ruin your day. You can't expect Dillon to warrant an aftermarket part. I wouldn't. You will also hear that the 1050 does it. Why not the 650. The 1050 is a whole nuther beast. Compare toolheads and you'll see what I mean.
I've seen this same thing myself. In my opinion, it would put too much upward pressure on the shellplate that is not supported. Could break the shellplate bolt. Even with the Dillon super swager you have to make adjustments or you will over swage. Its hard to explain but the crimps are different. If you are using the gs custom swaged on light crimps and then get a heavy in there it could ruin your day. You can't expect Dillon to warrant an aftermarket part. I wouldn't. You will also hear that the 1050 does it. Why not the 650. The 1050 is a whole nuther beast. Compare toolheads and you'll see what I mean.
Quote from Reloader on December 1, 2015, 5:19 amon press swagers abuse the press. The 650 is a well engineered machine, but not designed for the heavy stresses that a swager can inflict. Respect your machine and find some other solution. I prefer to bevel with an $8 home depot device in an electric drill.
on press swagers abuse the press. The 650 is a well engineered machine, but not designed for the heavy stresses that a swager can inflict. Respect your machine and find some other solution. I prefer to bevel with an $8 home depot device in an electric drill.
Quote from Reloader on November 13, 2017, 7:00 amNot sure what sjnewkirk uses, but I’m guessing it’s what I use. Just a cheap counter sink bit has worked fantastic for me: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-1-2-in-Titanium-Countersink-Drill-Bit-CST1/203530165
I’ve tried several swagers, including the RCBS bench mounted and have seen friends use the on-press 650 swager. All of the swagers I mentioned seem to do ALRIGHT but don’t clear the crimp well enough in my opinion. My experience is a heavy crimped case will still give you issues unless you bevel. I’m really curious how the on-press 1050 swager does, but wouldn’t want to abuse my 650 with an aftermarket one. Counter sink bit works well, cheap, and allows the new primer to slide in like butter.
Not sure what sjnewkirk uses, but I’m guessing it’s what I use. Just a cheap counter sink bit has worked fantastic for me: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-1-2-in-Titanium-Countersink-Drill-Bit-CST1/203530165
I’ve tried several swagers, including the RCBS bench mounted and have seen friends use the on-press 650 swager. All of the swagers I mentioned seem to do ALRIGHT but don’t clear the crimp well enough in my opinion. My experience is a heavy crimped case will still give you issues unless you bevel. I’m really curious how the on-press 1050 swager does, but wouldn’t want to abuse my 650 with an aftermarket one. Counter sink bit works well, cheap, and allows the new primer to slide in like butter.