XL650 case & primer woes
Quote from Reloader on March 4, 2012, 12:56 amI am having some problems with my XL650, and I am starting to think there is a "timing" issue with my press.
1. Every few cases, for some reason the case jostles slightly out from position under the sizing/de-priming die. Messes me up entirely, of course, because I cannot complete the stroke (and will usually forget to prime the case under the powder funnel). EDIT: I don't think I am forgetting, I think primers are having issues too.
2. Primers are not seating, going in sideways, and sometimes (possibly) falling out - I know I am finding primers in my bullet tray, often separate (cup, anvil and agent, all scattered), and lots of un-primed bullets. Something is amiss here. They are Remington 2.5 large pistol primers. I am about to head to sportsman's warehouse to buy some CCI ones. If the timing is off, or the detent is causing a problem, could that explain them going in sideways?
3. The whole thing was jostling a bunch when operating, spilling powder, so I clipped off 1.5 coils from the detent ball spring. I found that in the dillon forums.
This is being non fun now.
I am having some problems with my XL650, and I am starting to think there is a "timing" issue with my press.
1. Every few cases, for some reason the case jostles slightly out from position under the sizing/de-priming die. Messes me up entirely, of course, because I cannot complete the stroke (and will usually forget to prime the case under the powder funnel). EDIT: I don't think I am forgetting, I think primers are having issues too.
2. Primers are not seating, going in sideways, and sometimes (possibly) falling out - I know I am finding primers in my bullet tray, often separate (cup, anvil and agent, all scattered), and lots of un-primed bullets. Something is amiss here. They are Remington 2.5 large pistol primers. I am about to head to sportsman's warehouse to buy some CCI ones. If the timing is off, or the detent is causing a problem, could that explain them going in sideways?
3. The whole thing was jostling a bunch when operating, spilling powder, so I clipped off 1.5 coils from the detent ball spring. I found that in the dillon forums.
This is being non fun now.
Quote from Reloader on March 5, 2012, 3:37 pmyour problems might be related. When you push forward on the handle to seat the primer, this also finishes sliding the case into the shellplate. Check the primer seater assembly and make sure it is threaded up into the bottom of the platform all the way. If it has backed out then primers will flip.
your problems might be related. When you push forward on the handle to seat the primer, this also finishes sliding the case into the shellplate. Check the primer seater assembly and make sure it is threaded up into the bottom of the platform all the way. If it has backed out then primers will flip.
Quote from Reloader on March 30, 2012, 5:50 pmI am having some problems with my XL650, and I am starting to think there is a "timing" issue with my press.
1. Every few cases, for some reason the case jostles slightly out from position under the sizing/de-priming die. Messes me up entirely, of course, because I cannot complete the stroke (and will usually forget to prime the case under the powder funnel). EDIT: I don't think I am forgetting, I think primers are having issues too.
I have seen this issue and it happens when you dont fully seat a primer. Dont know why they conside but it has been my obsevation on when it happens. It only happens accasonly withe me see the next response for some more tips.2. Primers are not seating, going in sideways, and sometimes (possibly) falling out - I know I am finding primers in my bullet tray, often separate (cup, anvil and agent, all scattered), and lots of un-primed bullets. Something is amiss here. They are Remington 2.5 large pistol primers. I am about to head to sportsman's warehouse to buy some CCI ones. If the timing is off, or the detent is causing a problem, could that explain them going in sideways?
There have been two thing i did not like about the primer shell plate setup. 1 no bearing for the shelplate. 2 that the shellplate can bind the primer plate. you can get a bearing kit off of ebay to help with the bouncing of the rounds and loss of powder. but it can compund the problem binding of the primer plate. there is a small window that allows the shellplate to rotate nicely and the primer plate to feed the primers correctly. Addtional the set screw under the shellplate assembly can alowe the main scew to backout every so little and cause the whole thing to go haywire. My shellplate bolt has four dimples in the top and there is a repetable location that those dimples must be in for the shellplate and primer plate to be happy and give great output.
3. The whole thing was jostling a bunch when operating, spilling powder, so I clipped off 1.5 coils from the detent ball spring. I found that in the dillon forums.
A bearing and the proper tension will help with this and if adjusted properly remove this spilling. the spring cuting seems a little drastic.
This is being non fun now.
I am having some problems with my XL650, and I am starting to think there is a "timing" issue with my press.
1. Every few cases, for some reason the case jostles slightly out from position under the sizing/de-priming die. Messes me up entirely, of course, because I cannot complete the stroke (and will usually forget to prime the case under the powder funnel). EDIT: I don't think I am forgetting, I think primers are having issues too.
2. Primers are not seating, going in sideways, and sometimes (possibly) falling out - I know I am finding primers in my bullet tray, often separate (cup, anvil and agent, all scattered), and lots of un-primed bullets. Something is amiss here. They are Remington 2.5 large pistol primers. I am about to head to sportsman's warehouse to buy some CCI ones. If the timing is off, or the detent is causing a problem, could that explain them going in sideways?
There have been two thing i did not like about the primer shell plate setup. 1 no bearing for the shelplate. 2 that the shellplate can bind the primer plate. you can get a bearing kit off of ebay to help with the bouncing of the rounds and loss of powder. but it can compund the problem binding of the primer plate. there is a small window that allows the shellplate to rotate nicely and the primer plate to feed the primers correctly. Addtional the set screw under the shellplate assembly can alowe the main scew to backout every so little and cause the whole thing to go haywire. My shellplate bolt has four dimples in the top and there is a repetable location that those dimples must be in for the shellplate and primer plate to be happy and give great output.
3. The whole thing was jostling a bunch when operating, spilling powder, so I clipped off 1.5 coils from the detent ball spring. I found that in the dillon forums.
A bearing and the proper tension will help with this and if adjusted properly remove this spilling. the spring cuting seems a little drastic.
This is being non fun now.