XL750 Tips and issues, short cuts?
Quote from Reloader on August 16, 2019, 2:50 pmHello VHoward,
Last week when I was buying the XL750 over the phone the salesman said to me they were having trouble in keeping up with the demand for this press and said I may have bought the last one until more can be produced.
I think this may be why mine had a defective part, sometimes when things are rushed... stuff happens and things sometimes go out the door not quite ready for prime time. The last 3 items that I have bought lately have been defective and all three have have the same thing in common.
I switched to a different brand??? and with certain bad events that keep making the news with ever increasing frequency, some items are in very high demand, it ebbs and flows? Sad Very Sad😕Thanks for the advice on Dillon's great warranty policy.
That is so good to knowI have a minor issue and would like your input on the best method of switching calibers and setting up economically and efficiently.
First off, this problem was also on my other progressive press as well.
And is the same on the XL750 too. Read below,1. When loading ammo that is near or nearly full of powder charge and while the cartridge is indexing to the next station it stops so abruptly that some of the powder charge is spilled before you top it with a bullet.Very annoying to say the least.
Any advice on how to mitigate this?
2. I have multiple calibers I load for and I want to minimize the changeover hassle and time and expense.
I am thinking of either buying a few extra Dillon powder measures for my 4 different pistol calibers IE: use one powder measure for the 4 pistol calibers and one for the rifle calibers. It is to expensive to buy a powder measure separately for every caliber maybe just group like or similar calibers to one powder measure.
I have an RCBS powder measure I was thinking of using on the XL750 for my pistol calibers, Dillon sells an adapter for this. Then use one or two Dillon powder measures for my other 4 rifle calibers.
3. To reduce start up costs, I did not order all of the caliber conversion kits for all of the calibers I have, nor did I get the electric case loader yet.
I have read some of the forums by Bryan Enos and he has some great ideas and shortcuts I am looking at trying.
Comments?
Hello VHoward,
Last week when I was buying the XL750 over the phone the salesman said to me they were having trouble in keeping up with the demand for this press and said I may have bought the last one until more can be produced.
I think this may be why mine had a defective part, sometimes when things are rushed... stuff happens and things sometimes go out the door not quite ready for prime time. The last 3 items that I have bought lately have been defective and all three have have the same thing in common.
I switched to a different brand??? and with certain bad events that keep making the news with ever increasing frequency, some items are in very high demand, it ebbs and flows? Sad Very Sad😕
Thanks for the advice on Dillon's great warranty policy.
That is so good to know
I have a minor issue and would like your input on the best method of switching calibers and setting up economically and efficiently.
First off, this problem was also on my other progressive press as well.
And is the same on the XL750 too. Read below,
1. When loading ammo that is near or nearly full of powder charge and while the cartridge is indexing to the next station it stops so abruptly that some of the powder charge is spilled before you top it with a bullet.Very annoying to say the least.
Any advice on how to mitigate this?
2. I have multiple calibers I load for and I want to minimize the changeover hassle and time and expense.
I am thinking of either buying a few extra Dillon powder measures for my 4 different pistol calibers IE: use one powder measure for the 4 pistol calibers and one for the rifle calibers. It is to expensive to buy a powder measure separately for every caliber maybe just group like or similar calibers to one powder measure.
I have an RCBS powder measure I was thinking of using on the XL750 for my pistol calibers, Dillon sells an adapter for this. Then use one or two Dillon powder measures for my other 4 rifle calibers.
3. To reduce start up costs, I did not order all of the caliber conversion kits for all of the calibers I have, nor did I get the electric case loader yet.
I have read some of the forums by Bryan Enos and he has some great ideas and shortcuts I am looking at trying.
Comments?
Quote from Reloader on August 18, 2019, 2:49 amI’m setting up a 750 for my target pistol ammo.
Also setting up a new 550c for hunting rifle ammo.
You are right...it’s painful on the wallet getting started. Won’t hurt as bad later on to add calibers and quick change setups, but it’s tough upfront.
I have 4 powder measures that will go on four dedicated tool heads for the 750.
I’m not planning on using a tool head mounted powder measure on the 550c. I’ll throw the charges and trickle them up. Dump them in through the funnel on the powder die.
I do see the value in having dedicated powder measures, though. Cuts down on conversation time.
Good luck with your new press.
I’m setting up a 750 for my target pistol ammo.
Also setting up a new 550c for hunting rifle ammo.
You are right...it’s painful on the wallet getting started. Won’t hurt as bad later on to add calibers and quick change setups, but it’s tough upfront.
I have 4 powder measures that will go on four dedicated tool heads for the 750.
I’m not planning on using a tool head mounted powder measure on the 550c. I’ll throw the charges and trickle them up. Dump them in through the funnel on the powder die.
I do see the value in having dedicated powder measures, though. Cuts down on conversation time.
Good luck with your new press.
Quote from Reloader on August 21, 2019, 2:04 pmJust received the replacement parts from Dillon on Monday.
Installed and Setup for .223, works nicely loaded 50 Rds. with no problems. Indexing was much smoother this time.
Switched to pistol caliber, (.38 spec) ran over 100 Rds. thru press.
No issues!Wow very smooth, makes a nice cycling sound while spitting out rounds.
Now I have a new problem... I have to buy more components to feed this beast it, devours them quickly. Also need to purchase the electric case feeder soon.
While searching for more bullets and other stuff, I ran across two items of interest to me that I purchased.
1. Delrin shell plate index ball (a medium hard plastic material similar to Teflon only tougher and slicker) instead of the steel ball used by Dillon
2. A Torin flat thrust Roller bearing with two hardened flat washers.
To be used on the shell plate retaining bolt. To be placed under the head of the shell plate bolt while sitting on top of the shell plate.The theory behind installing both of these items is to reduce the sudden and rapid deceleration of the shell plate when it indexes the next station and reduce wobble of the shell plate.
Due to the larger surface area imposed by the large diameter of the roller bearing riding Assy on Top of the shell plate
when it snaps to a sudden stop and the case is full of powder just before topping with a bullet. this is made worse when taller Rifle cases are loaded, the case whips back and forth spilling powder making a mess and causing inconsistent powder charges.
I bought these items from Evergladesammo.com. They also have great prices on loading components too.
They list these items for the XL650 but since both the XL650/XL750 share the same parts in this area... they should work on my XL750 just fine.
I put a light coat of Lubri-plate grease on the underside of the shell plate area and under the bolt head too.😀I assembled shell plate and bolt, lightly snugged the bolt tight and backed off the bolt 1/8 a turn and locked the set screw per Dillon
Time will tell on how they will work out.
The bearing Assy cost 9.99.
Delrin balls, 3/8 dia balls were .75 ea. I bought 3 for spares
Just received the replacement parts from Dillon on Monday.
Installed and Setup for .223, works nicely loaded 50 Rds. with no problems. Indexing was much smoother this time.
Switched to pistol caliber, (.38 spec) ran over 100 Rds. thru press.
No issues!
Wow very smooth, makes a nice cycling sound while spitting out rounds.
Now I have a new problem... I have to buy more components to feed this beast it, devours them quickly. Also need to purchase the electric case feeder soon.
While searching for more bullets and other stuff, I ran across two items of interest to me that I purchased.
1. Delrin shell plate index ball (a medium hard plastic material similar to Teflon only tougher and slicker) instead of the steel ball used by Dillon
2. A Torin flat thrust Roller bearing with two hardened flat washers.
To be used on the shell plate retaining bolt. To be placed under the head of the shell plate bolt while sitting on top of the shell plate.
The theory behind installing both of these items is to reduce the sudden and rapid deceleration of the shell plate when it indexes the next station and reduce wobble of the shell plate.
Due to the larger surface area imposed by the large diameter of the roller bearing riding Assy on Top of the shell plate
when it snaps to a sudden stop and the case is full of powder just before topping with a bullet. this is made worse when taller Rifle cases are loaded, the case whips back and forth spilling powder making a mess and causing inconsistent powder charges.
I bought these items from Evergladesammo.com. They also have great prices on loading components too.
They list these items for the XL650 but since both the XL650/XL750 share the same parts in this area... they should work on my XL750 just fine.
I put a light coat of Lubri-plate grease on the underside of the shell plate area and under the bolt head too.😀
I assembled shell plate and bolt, lightly snugged the bolt tight and backed off the bolt 1/8 a turn and locked the set screw per Dillon
Time will tell on how they will work out.
The bearing Assy cost 9.99.
Delrin balls, 3/8 dia balls were .75 ea. I bought 3 for spares
Quote from Reloader on February 13, 2021, 11:57 amDear Sir
One thing I have done switching calibers is to buy a separate tool head and powder charging die for each caliber. Once you have your dies set up it makes changing calibers much easier by only having to switch out the powder measure. I know those things are expensive and right now I only have one but the goal is to have one measure set up for pistol and one for rifle. That way I don’t have to change over the charging bar when switching from pistol to rifle. I found a bunch of used Dillon charging dies on eBay and bought them all and saved a few bucks.
As far as your powder falling out while the shell plate spins make sure everything is greased properly and try to make sure your handle strokes are smooth (not jerky). This will make the shell plate spin more consistently and have less of a jerky stop. I was having a problem with my bullets falling off from my auto bullet feeder because of the jerky motion when it stopped and by adjusting my stroke it made it much better. I also put a case mouth expander die on stage 1 for my .223 because they were the biggest problem.
The are people on eBay selling improved parts for the 750 such as a ceramic ball barring that smooths out the spin. I bought one and it does seem to help.
Good luck and happy reloading.
George
Dear Sir
One thing I have done switching calibers is to buy a separate tool head and powder charging die for each caliber. Once you have your dies set up it makes changing calibers much easier by only having to switch out the powder measure. I know those things are expensive and right now I only have one but the goal is to have one measure set up for pistol and one for rifle. That way I don’t have to change over the charging bar when switching from pistol to rifle. I found a bunch of used Dillon charging dies on eBay and bought them all and saved a few bucks.
As far as your powder falling out while the shell plate spins make sure everything is greased properly and try to make sure your handle strokes are smooth (not jerky). This will make the shell plate spin more consistently and have less of a jerky stop. I was having a problem with my bullets falling off from my auto bullet feeder because of the jerky motion when it stopped and by adjusting my stroke it made it much better. I also put a case mouth expander die on stage 1 for my .223 because they were the biggest problem.
The are people on eBay selling improved parts for the 750 such as a ceramic ball barring that smooths out the spin. I bought one and it does seem to help.
Good luck and happy reloading.
George
Quote from Reloader on February 22, 2021, 4:07 pmHere's what I've learned with my 750:
1) 9mm sizer die from Dillon is straight-wall resizer like 40 and 45's. 9mm is actually tapered. the result is a coke bottle look. The good news is it has absolutely no effect on ammo feed or bullet performance. If you have OCD and can't let it go, I was told Lee 9mm resizer die is tapered and will make the case look "normal".
2) If you load more than 50 but less than 500 rounds per session, the motorized case feeder is overkill. Double Alpha makes a very nice and inexpensive case feeder(https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/mini-xl650-case-feeder) for low volume loading. Make sure to get the case feeder bowl(https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/daa-mini-case-feeder-loader-bowl). That bowl lets me load 100 cases into the feeder in about 30 seconds.
Here's what I've learned with my 750:
1) 9mm sizer die from Dillon is straight-wall resizer like 40 and 45's. 9mm is actually tapered. the result is a coke bottle look. The good news is it has absolutely no effect on ammo feed or bullet performance. If you have OCD and can't let it go, I was told Lee 9mm resizer die is tapered and will make the case look "normal".
2) If you load more than 50 but less than 500 rounds per session, the motorized case feeder is overkill. Double Alpha makes a very nice and inexpensive case feeder(https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/mini-xl650-case-feeder) for low volume loading. Make sure to get the case feeder bowl(https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/daa-mini-case-feeder-loader-bowl). That bowl lets me load 100 cases into the feeder in about 30 seconds.