Primer-Explosion
Quote from Reloader on August 23, 2009, 2:45 pmHello
I had some kind of primer explosion.
Today i reloaded some 9mm Para rounds with Federal 100 primers, after loading approx. 700 rounds i wanted to seat a primer and it made a big BANG
and the whole primer magazine with at least 90 primers went off.
I don´t know why this happened, i dit not use excessive force to seat the primer.Now my ears are ringing and i can not load ammo any more because the
Primer-magazine got stuck in the Magazine-shield because it was totally deformed by the explosion, the Primer-support-shim is totally bend and also the Switch-lever and the Follower-rod of the Primer-early-warning are broken.What to do to make that machine work again ?
best regards,
burns_01
Hello
I had some kind of primer explosion.
Today i reloaded some 9mm Para rounds with Federal 100 primers, after loading approx. 700 rounds i wanted to seat a primer and it made a big BANG
and the whole primer magazine with at least 90 primers went off.
I don´t know why this happened, i dit not use excessive force to seat the primer.
Now my ears are ringing and i can not load ammo any more because the
Primer-magazine got stuck in the Magazine-shield because it was totally deformed by the explosion, the Primer-support-shim is totally bend and also the Switch-lever and the Follower-rod of the Primer-early-warning are broken.
What to do to make that machine work again ?
best regards,
burns_01
Quote from Reloader on August 24, 2009, 2:32 pmYou will have to call Dillon for the replacement parts. You will have to replace the entire primer tube assembly which is covered under your warranty. The primer tube assembly is setup as a safety device to do exactly what it did to contain the explosion and direct it up instead of in your face. If you manage to pry the inside tube out you will probably find it ruptured but the outer tube is intact. However it is weakened so must be replaced.
If you look at your ceiling, you will probably see primers embedded in the sheetrock (obviously this has happened to me too).
You will have to call Dillon for the replacement parts. You will have to replace the entire primer tube assembly which is covered under your warranty. The primer tube assembly is setup as a safety device to do exactly what it did to contain the explosion and direct it up instead of in your face. If you manage to pry the inside tube out you will probably find it ruptured but the outer tube is intact. However it is weakened so must be replaced.
If you look at your ceiling, you will probably see primers embedded in the sheetrock (obviously this has happened to me too).
Quote from Reloader on August 24, 2009, 4:02 pmPhone or e-mail us with your name and address, the machine and caliber info, and we'll send a replacement primer feed system to you. Any idea what the case headstamp was you were trying to prime? Federal primers are softer, and therefore more sensitive than other brands, but if a case with a crimped primer pocket got into the mix, that could set off most any brand of primer.
Phone or e-mail us with your name and address, the machine and caliber info, and we'll send a replacement primer feed system to you. Any idea what the case headstamp was you were trying to prime? Federal primers are softer, and therefore more sensitive than other brands, but if a case with a crimped primer pocket got into the mix, that could set off most any brand of primer.
Quote from Reloader on September 3, 2009, 2:48 pmHello
I thank Dillon for the super warranty and fast delivery of the replacement parts.
I am from Austria and i usually load once fired S&B brand brass.
it seems to me they have very narrow primer holes so i will pay more attention on the priming especially with the Federal primers.Now i can start loading again.
Hello
I thank Dillon for the super warranty and fast delivery of the replacement parts.
I am from Austria and i usually load once fired S&B brand brass.
it seems to me they have very narrow primer holes so i will pay more attention on the priming especially with the Federal primers.
Now i can start loading again.
Quote from Reloader on September 7, 2009, 1:23 pmThis accident puzzles me. I thought the Dillon primer feed tubes and the primer seating station were designed to be both away from each other and not in line so that a primer going off while being seated in one case wouldn't reach the entire primer feed tube.
I guess it doesn't always work.
This accident puzzles me. I thought the Dillon primer feed tubes and the primer seating station were designed to be both away from each other and not in line so that a primer going off while being seated in one case wouldn't reach the entire primer feed tube.
I guess it doesn't always work.
Quote from Reloader on October 9, 2009, 8:49 pmI concur this is a strange failure.
The primer must have caught on indexing and not at primer seating time.
If the primer had gone of at seating time (when pressing the handle forward after the down stroke), then I would only expect one primer to go off. The one under the shell case. All the others should stay in the primer die plate or primer tube without being effected.
To damage the primer feed tube one would have had to pull real hard about half of the way on the up stroke (when no shells have entered the dies, but the primer indexing happens). I would double check the primer die plate for damage as well.
Are you sure you had the primer follower rod (16" black plastic rod) installed?
I have loaded in excess of 1.5 million rounds of shotgun, pistol and rifle. The only primer explosion I had was on a shotgun press that was not a Dillon brand.
If the handle is not moving with a smooth pull/push then something is binding and is cause for stopping and looking. The Dillon reloaders all run smooth. I have loaded on all the versions and mostly on an hold 550B and XL650.
I concur this is a strange failure.
The primer must have caught on indexing and not at primer seating time.
If the primer had gone of at seating time (when pressing the handle forward after the down stroke), then I would only expect one primer to go off. The one under the shell case. All the others should stay in the primer die plate or primer tube without being effected.
To damage the primer feed tube one would have had to pull real hard about half of the way on the up stroke (when no shells have entered the dies, but the primer indexing happens). I would double check the primer die plate for damage as well.
Are you sure you had the primer follower rod (16" black plastic rod) installed?
I have loaded in excess of 1.5 million rounds of shotgun, pistol and rifle. The only primer explosion I had was on a shotgun press that was not a Dillon brand.
If the handle is not moving with a smooth pull/push then something is binding and is cause for stopping and looking. The Dillon reloaders all run smooth. I have loaded on all the versions and mostly on an hold 550B and XL650.
Quote from Reloader on December 21, 2009, 5:20 pmI agree with LCB. I have only loaded a little over 100,000 rounds on my 650 but it should be smooth without jerks. It had to have caught in indexing. The only resonable answer.
I agree with LCB. I have only loaded a little over 100,000 rounds on my 650 but it should be smooth without jerks. It had to have caught in indexing. The only resonable answer.
Quote from Reloader on April 13, 2010, 6:39 pmHad an explosion as well, in the 650, about two and a half years ago.
I live in Phoenix about a half hour drive from Dillon.
It cleared out the priming tube and made a hole in the ceiling.
Took all my priming stuff to Dillon and they replaced it all.
I have changed the way I reload now.
Ill resizes and trim the cases on the press then Ill swage them if necessary.
Then take the cases to the sink and wash them and get all the resizing lube off.
I then after drying for several days I’ll hand prime them.
Takes longer but then it’s like loading new brass.
I just adjusted my process to fit the press.
My “Ears” rang for a month and I am still skittish about using the press to prime.
Had an explosion as well, in the 650, about two and a half years ago.
I live in Phoenix about a half hour drive from Dillon.
It cleared out the priming tube and made a hole in the ceiling.
Took all my priming stuff to Dillon and they replaced it all.
I have changed the way I reload now.
Ill resizes and trim the cases on the press then Ill swage them if necessary.
Then take the cases to the sink and wash them and get all the resizing lube off.
I then after drying for several days I’ll hand prime them.
Takes longer but then it’s like loading new brass.
I just adjusted my process to fit the press.
My “Ears” rang for a month and I am still skittish about using the press to prime.
Quote from Reloader on December 9, 2010, 9:10 pmI too have had aDillon XL 650 Priming system Blow Up! not one piece was reuseable ! It blew the tube and nut right off of the top, and it stuck in the ceiling. I refuse to use the priming system Ever ! Eventhough Dillon replaced it all. I only use a LEE Hand Priming system now ! I do not trust the Dillon XL 650 anymore ! Wish I had a couple more 550's instead.
Bradley Miller
I too have had aDillon XL 650 Priming system Blow Up! not one piece was reuseable ! It blew the tube and nut right off of the top, and it stuck in the ceiling. I refuse to use the priming system Ever ! Eventhough Dillon replaced it all. I only use a LEE Hand Priming system now ! I do not trust the Dillon XL 650 anymore ! Wish I had a couple more 550's instead.
Bradley Miller